birther pangs

longtime usurper family crony and newly-installed hawaii governor neil abercrombie may just have been crazy like a fox when in december he very publicly took it upon himself to "put this particular canard to rest" — referring of course to lingering birtherism — by finding "ways to change state policy to allow him to release additional proof that the president was born in honolulu in 1961."

hoocoodanode that the governor's shocking abandonment of his quest barely a month later would bring the ever-vigilant birthers roaring out of the deep funk they'd been stewing in since the bruising guilty plea and jailing of their hero and now former army ltc terry lakin, the usurper's latest political prisoner?

AND OBAMA SURE ISN’T GOING TO REQUEST THE BC BE MADE PUBLIC.

ZERO KNOWS ONLY HE CAN GET THE BC MADE PUBLIC.

HE REFUSES TO REQUEST THE BC, BECUASE IT DOESN’T EXIST.

THANKS GOV ABERCROMBIE.

by marty62

the surprise metastasizing of the still-ain't-quite-dead movement did not escape the notice of the lamestream media — its natural enemy — which was finally forced to admit, via ppp and cnn polls, what every real american™ always knew: that birthers rule! (well, at least in the gop ...)

... i wear the "birther" title proudly, just as i wear the "vexatious requester" title proudly.

someday i'm gonna sing, "i was ‘birther' when ‘birther' wasn't cool." lol

they've thrown all the rotten tomatoes that they have at us and we've come out of it unscathed. what are they gonna do now - bleed on us? wave their privates at our aunties? taunt us a second time? lol.

we are the little bunnies they ridicule but in the end they will be the ones soiling their armor. lol. the only question is whether they, in their figurative death throes, will bother to write out, "aaaaaaaaaaagggggggggghhhhhhh" (with a gutteral sound, in the back of the throat). lol

by butterdezillion

so now — with last november's return of congress' lower chamber into its rightful hands; with the oversight committee in the hands of darrell issa, from whose belt already proudly dangles the scalp of a onetime governor; with the ship of state's sails filling with a now-impossible-to-ignore whirlwind sweeping straight off the plains of central birfistan — elected and unelected officials no longer need tiptoe around the most important constitutional crisis in world history. birthers can therefore expect congress to stand with them arm-in-arm and heads held high as they launch those long overdue impeachment hearings ...

john boehner: "it's not my job to tell the american people what to think ... the state of hawaii has said he was born there. that's good enough for me ... the president says he's a christian. i accept him at his word."

eric cantor: "i don't think it's an issue that we need to address at all ... it is not an issue that even needs to be on the policy-making table right now whatsoever."

tim pawlenty: "i’m not one who questions the existence of the president’s birth certificate."

mike huckabee: "the idea that he's not a citizen, to me, y'know why that's nonsense? because if there was any shred of truth to it, hillary clinton and her wonderful investigative opposition research machine would have found it and would have used it and for republicans to even be bringing it up, i think it's a waste of energy and time. let's focus on the issues with which we have disagreement, not on, really, the extraneous personal things that are immaterial."

michelle bachmann: "it isn't for me to state; that's for the president to state ... when the president makes his statements, i think they should stand for their own."

sarah palin: "it’s distracting. it gets annoying. let’s stick with what really matters."

darrell issa: "mine is not the committee that asks where the president was born ... it doesn't ask what ministers that he went to think. all that stuff is a distraction. i'm not the overseer of the president."

... or maybe not.

annoying?

she's starting to annoy me.

by little jeremiah

i got a fundraising call today from someone claiming to be calling on behalf of john boehner. i let the poor girl have it. i told her that i had no respect for boehner and all the republicans who are so timid that they are afraid to demand that they see obama's birth certificate, and then suggested that she call me back for a contribution after boehner grew a pair, and did the right thing.

by ml/nj

this may explain obama’s refusal to resolve this issue. the progressives are using birtherism as a divide-and-conquer tool.

this explains why the sudden interest in whacking pubbies with ambush questions about obama’s birthplace.

the media can then sort people by this characteristic, and can safely ignore anyone tainted by the birther brush.

by dbrow

well of course that’s the media's strategy. the question is are we stupid enough to fall for it. the answer is probably. just look at the vitriol aimed at bush and romney on this board. hey, romney is not my choice and bush could have done a lot of things differently but i would crawl across broken glass to support romney, chuckleberry, gingrich or really anyone on the GOP side (well not sure about paul) if it means getting rid of the disaster we have now.

by marlon

you sir are a GOP kool-aid drinker. romney’s wothless, and elmer gantry’s [huckabee] a fraud. if any of them are the nominee, i’m staying home election day 2012. if the usurper is re-elected, we’ll deserve it for not running a true constitutional conservative.

by emperor palpatine

well...there goes the perception of [bachmann's] strength and integrity. and, i rather liked her, too.

overlooking what may well be one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated on the american people is no way to win hearts and minds among the populace.

by publiusmm

michelle bachmann did not dismiss or diss birthers....she handled the situation as best as she could.

palin said for the "GOP to distance itself from birthers" (words to that effect). palin dismissed the issue and the birthers....bachmann did not.

its time for the palinStinians to get real. sarah palin is a liberal RINO...and this is not the first time she has gone RINO. the palinStinians would still support and propagandize for palin if she joined al-qaeda.

by ucfroadwarrior

a good lawyer knows that you never ask a question unless you already know the answer.

any republican who sides with the bither "theory" would be lambasted until they could prove their assertion.

since there is currently no definitive proof one way or the other regarding obama's birth status, prominent republicans should stay neutral on the subject until there is.

as for me, i will be convinced about obama's status when i see the proof. until then, he is just another kenyan usurper gangsta with a karl marx fetish.

by kickass conservative

i know every conservative candidate will be asked if obozo is a citizen. my vote will go to the one who has the metal to say: whether he is a citizen or not, i do not know; but i know he is not a natural born citizen and therefore is a fraud and usurper; who is not eligible to be president; and so he should be impeached; prosecuted and imprisoned.

by polosec

america is doomed.

conservatives are heading in so many directions that there will never be a unified voice amongst us....

and no where has that been more obvious that right here at freepers.

not once has a freeper backed candidate made it to the white house.

why is that?

by halgr

the most powerful man in the world, operating out of the most powerful office in the world, situated in the most powerful nation in the world, and he can’t produce the most believeable fake in the world?

don’t bet the next election on it. obama’s been playing with this issue, he’s been loving it.

if he needs a BC, one will be fothcoming.

by balding_eagle

while i'm in no position to know if our marxist muslim overlord is "loving it" or not, i can admit that i most certainly am.

like the birther said: THANKS GOV ABERCROMBIE.

at last, bipartisanship

house passes resolution that states obama was born in hawaii, 378-0. this evening, the house passed a resolution sponsored by rep. neil abercrombie (d-hi) that commemorates hawaii’s 50th anniversary as a u.s. state by a vote of 378-0. the resolution also contains this provision: "whereas the 44th president of the united states, barack obama, was born in hawaii," a measure that some GOP members may have had trouble supporting. however, many of the republican representatives who at expressed at least subtle doubt that obama was not born in the u.s. voted for the resolution. rep. michele bachmann (r-mn), who had earlier in the day prevented the resolution from coming to a voice vote on the house floor, and rep. bill posey (r-fl), who sponsored a bill requiring presidential candidates to prove natural-born citizenship, both voted for the resolution. rep. john campbell (r-ca), a co-sponsor of posey’s bill who expressed doubt about obama’s citizenship last week on msnbc, did not vote.

birthers voting "aye" bill posey (fl) marsha blackburn (tn) john culberson (tx) dan burton (in) robert goodlatte (va) randy neugebauer (tx) ted poe (tx)

the certifigate kabuki crusade

when someone hides something, they have something to hide! i believe that obama’s original birth certificate will prove that he is NOT eligible to serve as president.

one of the entertaining sub-narratives running through the certifigate™ "controversy" tells of the epic struggle undertaken by barack "the usurper" obama and his brainwashed minions to forever keep his birth records — if they indeed exist at all — away from public scrutiny, especially scrutiny from the tireless, free, god-fearing, constitution-loving natural-born™ patriots of hardcore right-wing blog free republic.

after all, inescapable logic forces all rational citizens to conclude that ...

... there's no legitimate reason for obama not to simply release the document in question and put all this to bed. no president should begin his term with any cloud of doubt surrounding his legitimacy.

i am content to see how president obama reacts when foreigners start yanking his chain knowing how sensitive the birth certificate issue is -- else why doesn't he just release the standard form of his birth certificate.

you see, our most conscientious protectors of freedom are only concerned for the integrity of the incoming administration — for obama's sake. because this entire controversy is all of his own making!

this whole debate is unnecessary. obama should be made to show proof he was born in the US.

just show us the standard little-people form of your birth certificate and end this crazy stuff, mr. obama. TIA. (fat chance)

... he spends hundreds of thousands of dollars arguing the plaintiffs have no standing. i think he should spend the $12 and get a certified copy of the original long for birth certificate and present it at a news conference. what is he hiding? i make no claim that obama was not born in hawaii, but his strategy makes no sense to me from a legal standpoint.

once again the question arises: why would someone spend $800,000 to keep from producing a $24 document?

why aren't you asking the simplest questions, like: why doesn't he just do this, with so much riding on it? why spend upwards of a million dollars fighting the release of a $10 document?

he has spent somewhere around $1mil using 3 law firms fighting against showing his long form birth certificate. the only BC he has shown was on his dailykos web site and it was proven a forgery by no less than 3 experts. his word means nothing either.

(uh-oh ... did the great orange figurehead just get outed?)

if all the states enact requirements to produce a valid BC,will all the candidates spend in excess of 1 million dollars in each state to avoid the laws?

of course, the well-informed already know full well that there's no way in hell the usurper can ever release those records:

if it is so legit, why doesn't his legal team submit the "public" certificate of live birth to courts? would submitting a forgery be grounds for disbarment?

the constitution is nothing, if it is ignored. obama can resolve this by requesting hawaii send his certified long form birth certificate to congress. he won't. he knows he wasn't constitutionally eligible and so do a lot more politicians and judges who are just going along. it is a SAD day for the republic.

he can't make it go away.... he has no original BC to make it go away.

well, since one of his close advisers is ex CIA higher up, and had a look at his passport files illegally, i'd say a well made forgery is about to be sprung upon the courts. that is likely the reason he has stonewalled for so long, getting the best forgery money can buy and getting it into the vault in hawaii. the internet forgery could not be used to stand before a court so the new forgery must be so close to perfect that it will pass scrutiny. and many of the sheeple will exhale a sigh of relief even if they suspect the forgery. you know there are nine black robed oligarchs who will be relieved if he presents a really good forgery!

the obamanoids never address the most obvious question: if obama would produce a document for factcheck and his campaign website, why is he spending so much money resisting presenting the document to a court of law? ... i answer that by stating the obvious, he's afraid that the forgery will then be open for authentication and he cannot allow that even if he spends millions to keep it from a court's hands. he's spent close to a million sending lawyers and detectives to bury every scrap of daocumentation from his adult life. there is a very deep and abiding reason for such behavior, and it isn't aimed at being ‘open and transparent'.

this flattering fiction, of obama fighting certifigate™ with tooth and nail and tons of cold hard cash, of course ignores two cavernous plot holes. first, in common with most state policies for handling vital records, hawaii state law prohibits access to certified copies of anyone's birth and death certificates — not just obama's — to those unable to demonstrate standing to see them:

[hawaii state health director dr. chiyome] fukino, however, repeated the health department's position that state law prohibits her or any other officials from actually releasing the birth certificate, which obama's campaign says shows he was born in honolulu on aug. 4, 1961. "there have been numerous requests for sen. barack hussein obama's official birth certificate," fukino said in the statement. "state law (hawai'i revised statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. ... no state official, including gov. linda lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the state of hawai'i."

so i think we can safely conclude that "persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record" would include — you guessed it — freepers.

effort required on obama's behalf: zero.

second, none of the court filings pending or already dismissed (numbering at least ten thus far) have legally required any response whatsoever from obama or any of his representatives. he's not even named as a defendant in most suits. accordingly, there's been no reported pushback from the obama side — that isn't an unsourced talking point from freeperville. there's not a single shred of evidence that a single case has been anything but routinely ignored, thereby incurring not the expenditure of a single cent in fees, nor a single drop of ink, nor a single second of thought, much less a single molecule of sweat, on obama's behalf.

effort required: zero.

if anyone's been working up a sweat, it's the freepers. our stalwart heroes have been swatting at empty air the whole time, in a magnificent kabuki crusade, which, to be honest, is the only kind of crusade these keyboard commandoes know how to wage.

and some of the rank-and-file have started to notice:

i've tried to get this information on how much was spent on any of these cases and i can't find anyone who can document this. i've heard assertions, but they were always absent any documentation or even any rationale. i would like to see that documentation that outlines who spent what and where ...

well, the research indicates that people are guessing. that's all that is going on with those figures. once someone gets some documentation (which they haven't, and which is why it doesn't exist), then we'll be able to tell. at this point in time, we've got nothing but people speculating. another interesting thing that i saw, was that one poster was embellishing on another poster's figures. if it was one hundred thousand for a few days or a week, then it started to be two hundred thousand. then someone else would post three hundred thousand, and on it would go. finally it cleared one million dollars ... LOL... it was sort of like telling the story in another person's ear and they would pass it on. the last person had a story that in no way resembled the original story that started it all. that's what i've seen of those figures and that "one million dollars"... :-)

... but hearing such arguments mouthed by purported fellow freepers only further demonstrates the frightening reach and magnitude of the usurper's desperate, all-encompassing machinations!

... what does this little platoon of deceivers say about the obama that he needs deceivers workign the internet to deflect people from the truth about his deciets?

i am starting to think you are a TEAM of obama lovers and/or constitutional haters who roam this site looking for BC threads. ... this is our ball and we are going to finish this game. no one picked you for the team. go home.

you are useless as a FReeper and an american.

waver not, faithful freepi, for we have the usurper on the run! how the bards shall sing of our victories!