brown: | hey, hey, chris, i think there's two things. i think, one, we're seeing the rahm emanuel rule number one, ah, taking effect. and that is, "let no crisis go unused". so, this is an opportunity for a president who wants to bankrupt the coal industry and basically get rid of the oil and gas industry to shut down offshore drilling in the gulf of mexico. |
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matthews: | why would somebody sabotage something that would cause this kind of damage to our planet, really? |
brown: | oh well, because i think there are terrorists in the world who would like to do that sort of thing. terrorists don't give a rat's butt about the ecology or anything else. all they care about is hurting america. |
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matthews: | ... but he just came out for offshore oil drilling. |
brown: | oh, chris, ah, i'm glad you asked that. he came out and said, look, i'm going to approve oil and gas drilling. and all you guys went, look what a great guy he is, trying to reach out to everybody else. chris, all he did was he approved two existing leases on the northeast coast, and shut down all the other proposed leases on the west coast and the southeast coast. there was nothing new in what he did. |
matthews: | but don't you know what you're saying to a third party, not somebody like myself or somebody like yourself, listening to you, thinks that you're sounding insane. you're saying that the president of the united states went into slow-mo here, somehow — or for somehow seemed to be working faster than he really was, but was really quite slow to get there, because he saw an opportunity to exploit a disaster so that he could reap discredit on to the coal industry. and by the way, a couple of weeks ago — |
brown: | no, no, no, not just the coal ... |
matthews: | — he came down for offshore drilling so that he could discredit it when this thing occurred. are you suggesting he somehow knew this would happen and that's why he came out for offshore drilling? |
brown: | no, no ... |
matthews: | it sounds like that's what you're saying — |
brown: | no, no, chris, hang on ... |
matthews: | — and it sounds crazy. crazy! |
brown: | well, and the way you just put it, chris, the way you just put it, it sounds crazy to me, too. |
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